Elliot Spagat:

Yes, I was in Lukeville, Arizona, which is one of the hot spots right now. About 3,000 people are crossing a day in that general area, much of it through Lukeville, which is a border crossing that is closed right now because of all the need to focus resources on processing migrants.

It's the border crossing, a duty-free shop, and a restaurant. And there's really very few agents around, but lots of people. I saw lots, probably more from Senegal than any other country, lots from Ghana — Guinea — I'm sorry — Mexico, of course, Guatemala.

And they're sawing through the walls, the smugglers are, on the Mexican side. They're using construction-grade tools. These are columns that were built during the final days of the Trump administration. They cut through and swing the columns back and forth. So people can just walk through, young people, toddlers, older people.

It's very easy to get through. And they walk for hours looking for Border Patrol agents who are nowhere to be found. This could probably be stopped by Border Patrol agents, but they just don't have enough there. They're busy processing.

I did — again, Commissioner Miller said he wants Mexico to step more. These are — step up more. There are these breaches, and there were hundreds of them, that they had been welded shut, but the dates were marked on when they had been fixed, and hundreds of them over a 30-mile stretch.

And Commissioner Miller said, we need Mexico to step up to do more, to stop people from breaching these wall — the wall on the Mexican side.

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